French President Emmanuel Macron and his wife, Brigitte Macron, will reportedly present “scientific” evidence during the trial of their lawsuit against political commentator Candace Owens to prove that Brigitte Macron was born female. The conservative podcaster often claimed in her videos that Brigitte Macron was born as a man.
Candace Owens released a dedicated series titled Becoming Brigitte in February 2025, in which she made these controversial assertions about Brigitte Macron. The first couple of France filed a defamation lawsuit against the podcaster in July 2025 in a US court. Despite the lawsuit, the podcaster doubled down on her claims and often demanded the photographs of Brigitte Macron's early life in her videos.
Tom Clare, the lawyer representing the Macrons, discussed the lawsuit in the September 18 episode of the BBC's Fame Under Fire podcast. During the episode, Clare stated that as plaintiffs, the Macrons would bear the "burden of proving falsity." He added that there would be "expert testimony of a scientific nature" to demonstrate the "falsity of the statements."
The host asked Clare how the First Lady of France felt about presenting evidence of her identity during the upcoming trial.
"It is inincredibly upsetting to think that you have to go and subject yourself to put this type of proof forward. It's not something that she is looking forward to or wants to do for exactly those reasons... It is a process that she will have to subject herself to in a very public way. But she's willing to do it. She is firmly resolved to do what it takes to set the record straight. She's 100% ready to meet that burden," Clare responded.
Following the podcast, several media outlets reported that Brigitte Macron would present evidence proving she was born a woman. Candace Owens took to her X account on Thursday to contest these media reports. Reacting to the New York Post's reporting on the subject, Candace Owens wrote:
"This is verifiably false. She isn’t suing me for saying she’s a man. She has never sued anyone ever for saying she’s a dude. Because she is one."
Further comments from Tom Clare on Brigitte Macron’s lawsuit against Candace Owens
During the interview, when the BBC host asked Brigitte Macron's lawyer about the nature of expert testimonies in the court, he withheld specifics. Tom Clare added that he would not reveal the "strategy," saying:
"Not ready to reveal all of our strategy as it relates to presenting expert testimony, but I would just say that it will, you know, we're prepared to demonstrate fully both generically and specifically that what she's saying about Brigitte Macron is false."
The host called the first couple of France "important players" on the world stage and added that figures of that stature had to be accustomed to people speaking about them and to hearing things they considered untrue. Continuing on that note, she asked why the Macrons decided to file the lawsuit.
"You know there is a line and when you are making false statements of fact about someone and when your false statements of fact are being spread and picked up and used by your adversaries to support coming after you in different venues, you have to take a stand. And her statements are over the line. This was not a step that they took lightly," Tom Clare replied.
Clare added that the Macrons filed the lawsuit only after Candace Owens repeated the claims multiple times and ignored several “warnings.” The lawyer emphasized that Owens commanded a “significant audience” and that her remarks were picked up by the media. He likened the spread of such “falsehoods” to a cancer that had “metastasized” into mainstream coverage.
Candace Owens previously said her claims about Brigitte Macron were drawn from Xavier Poussard’s book Becoming Brigitte. The Macrons filed their defamation lawsuit on July 23 in a Delaware court. On the same day, Owens dismissed the case as a “PR strategy” during her podcast.